{"id":102,"date":"2006-03-08T11:24:00","date_gmt":"2006-03-08T17:24:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.khaitan.org\/blog\/2006\/03\/etech-06-the-rss-atom-cat-fight-did-you-have-a-premonition\/"},"modified":"2006-03-08T11:24:00","modified_gmt":"2006-03-08T17:24:00","slug":"etech-06-the-rss-atom-cat-fight-did-you-have-a-premonition","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.khaitan.org\/blog\/2006\/03\/etech-06-the-rss-atom-cat-fight-did-you-have-a-premonition\/","title":{"rendered":"[Etech 06] The RSS &#038; Atom cat-fight: Did you have a premonition?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m sure Tim Bray had a premonition that a war of words is going to start after his &#8220;Atom as a case study&#8221; presentation. I hopped into the ballroom, expecting to learn a little bit more about Atom (which I was avoiding for a long time) &#8212; but, it looked like an open declaration of war, kinda &#8220;KMyA&#8221;. It did reach a positive note during the later half of the session, which was informative (When to use Atom? RSS? etc.)<br \/>\nThe session started as an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cacheop.com\/archives\/2006\/03\/atom_and_rss_tw.html\">open  criticism <\/a>of RSS. Dave Winer (sidenote: Don&#8217;t know, but seldom hear about Dave presenting at conferences like this) the man behind RSS <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scripting.com\/2006\/03\/08.html#isMicrosoftSubordinateToOreilly\">picked<\/a> up and shot back at O&#8217;Reilly, Tim &#038; Microsoft.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nI heard by reading a bunch of blogs that Tim Bray said some unkind things about me and my work at his Etech presentation. This is what happens when you try to create a monoculture; it has to demonize those who have differing opinions. That&#8217;s why O&#8217;Reilly conferences so lack substance, because they always only present one side, the side that Tim has invested in.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In the session Tim brought up the fact that RSS has failed (sic.) because of it&#8217;s non-rigorous specification. The point being missed here &#8212; the charter of RSS was to have <a href=\"http:\/\/web.resource.org\/rss\/1.0\/modules\/\">modules<\/a>; wherein it could be extended as desired. On one side, there is openness, collaboration and extensibility and then on the other tight control by a working group. Making both  to co-exist can be impossible. Analogy: You can either be Microsoft (tightly controlled Windows APIs) or you could be Linux (derive and add your own flavored logo).<br \/>\nFunnily enough, in his presentation, Tim had a cute photograph of two kittens fighting under the toilet. Note sure if that&#8217;s Atom vs. RSS or Dave vs. Tim, after what&#8217;s being <a href=\"http:\/\/eyeonwiner.org\/archives\/2006\/attempted-manipulation\">talked<\/a> about in the blogosphere. Hopefully, its the former and not otherwise.<br \/>\nFeedBurner might be happy seeing this &#8212; maybe they will come out with their own canonical model!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m sure Tim Bray had a premonition that a war of words is going to start after his &#8220;Atom as a case study&#8221; presentation. I hopped into the ballroom, expecting to learn a little bit more about Atom (which I was avoiding for a long time) &#8212; but, it looked like an open declaration of [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[13,24,25,23],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.khaitan.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/102"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.khaitan.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.khaitan.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.khaitan.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.khaitan.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=102"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.khaitan.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/102\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.khaitan.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=102"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.khaitan.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=102"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.khaitan.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=102"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}